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	<title>Comments on: Charging for carrier bags: Saving the world or capitalism at work?</title>
	<link>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/</link>
	<description>Scuba diving in Okinawa, and all things to do with Japan</description>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/#comment-4982</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well currently Florida has lowered their gas prices to $2.99 because they found that at $3.00 the locals stopped doing all the touristy things in the off season. They were loosing to much money because people saw $3.00 and decided to stay home and rent a movie instead of go diving or go to Disney. Increasing gas prices in the US are having a temporary effect.

Walmart also found if they kept their gas prices at $2.99 then people would come and buy gas and they would make up the difference in selling soda, snacks, concessions etc. Again the $3.00 magic number was killing their sales because people started driving less.

You can't kill off America's love affair with cars, but for the short term you sure can convince people not to drive all over.

On a side note plastic bags are also made from petrol and so their price also fluctuates with gas prices. Would you rather bring your own bags to the grocery store or have the stores charge extra money for food to make up the cost? The bags are getting expensive so its no longer cheap for the stores to foot the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well currently Florida has lowered their gas prices to $2.99 because they found that at $3.00 the locals stopped doing all the touristy things in the off season. They were loosing to much money because people saw $3.00 and decided to stay home and rent a movie instead of go diving or go to Disney. Increasing gas prices in the US are having a temporary effect.</p>
<p>Walmart also found if they kept their gas prices at $2.99 then people would come and buy gas and they would make up the difference in selling soda, snacks, concessions etc. Again the $3.00 magic number was killing their sales because people started driving less.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t kill off America&#8217;s love affair with cars, but for the short term you sure can convince people not to drive all over.</p>
<p>On a side note plastic bags are also made from petrol and so their price also fluctuates with gas prices. Would you rather bring your own bags to the grocery store or have the stores charge extra money for food to make up the cost? The bags are getting expensive so its no longer cheap for the stores to foot the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: soldave</title>
		<link>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/#comment-4886</link>
		<dc:creator>soldave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't agree with the petrol comparison I'm afraid.  Petrol is a very inelastic good meaning cost can go up and down all it likes but people will still use just about the same amount.  It can be categorized alongside cigarettes and alcohol for its inelasticity.  Hence why the British government is always putting so much tax on those things.  They know that people will purchase them regardless, and so are not afraid to pile on the tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t agree with the petrol comparison I&#8217;m afraid.  Petrol is a very inelastic good meaning cost can go up and down all it likes but people will still use just about the same amount.  It can be categorized alongside cigarettes and alcohol for its inelasticity.  Hence why the British government is always putting so much tax on those things.  They know that people will purchase them regardless, and so are not afraid to pile on the tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
		<link>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/#comment-4884</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, personally am all for it. But then I have been bring my own bags for years. I think the only way much environmental change is going to happen is by people being pushed into it. Most people don't see the grand scheme benefits of helping the environment in their every day lives.  So unless you do it for that feel good feeling of doing the right thing, you have no motivation.

Some stores in the US do charge for using plastic bags but most that are going eco friendly give a discount to those that bring their own. This works great in Co-ops and organic stores, but these people are usually already environmentally conscious. It does not work so well in big chain grocery stores, because some how the average American thinks that saving 2% when buying means nothing but paying 2% causes outrage.

Same thing with gas, when gas is $2.99 no big deal, but some how when gas hits $3.00 thats way to much and people drive less. Its just sort of odd that way. But honestly I think, especially in America, the only way to get people to change, is to charge them money. Discounts only work on things like solar panels or big ticket items. Things like groceries, and saving X%, people just don't care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, personally am all for it. But then I have been bring my own bags for years. I think the only way much environmental change is going to happen is by people being pushed into it. Most people don&#8217;t see the grand scheme benefits of helping the environment in their every day lives.  So unless you do it for that feel good feeling of doing the right thing, you have no motivation.</p>
<p>Some stores in the US do charge for using plastic bags but most that are going eco friendly give a discount to those that bring their own. This works great in Co-ops and organic stores, but these people are usually already environmentally conscious. It does not work so well in big chain grocery stores, because some how the average American thinks that saving 2% when buying means nothing but paying 2% causes outrage.</p>
<p>Same thing with gas, when gas is $2.99 no big deal, but some how when gas hits $3.00 thats way to much and people drive less. Its just sort of odd that way. But honestly I think, especially in America, the only way to get people to change, is to charge them money. Discounts only work on things like solar panels or big ticket items. Things like groceries, and saving X%, people just don&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/#comment-4873</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://soldave.thedeepstop.com/2008/01/29/charging-for-carrier-bags-saving-the-world-or-capitalism-at-work/#comment-4873</guid>
		<description>In the UK, most supermarkets charge something like 3p for bags now. I was a little skeptical as, obviously, it means more money for the company but maybe anything that reduces plastic bag prevalence is a good thing? I don't know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, most supermarkets charge something like 3p for bags now. I was a little skeptical as, obviously, it means more money for the company but maybe anything that reduces plastic bag prevalence is a good thing? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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